[10], Ferguson got a job doing clerical work for the Ademco Security Group in Syosset, New York. But Thursday, Ferguson had little to say during his 92-mile journey to Fishkill, in Dutchess County. While it was never explicitly stated, it was also hinted at numerous times throughout Eureka's run that Vincent was gay, making him Eureka's only resident LGBTQ+character as far as we knew. [16][17], He is a Montreal Canadiens fan, and he contributes to NHL.com as a celebrity blogger. Shootings Requests a Different Lawyer", "Ferguson Collapses in Court After Scorning Insanity Plea", "Judge Delays Ruling in L.I.R.R. nytimes.com. Join Facebook to connect with Colin Ferguson and others you may know. The now 60-year-old Ferguson is incarcerated at Upstate Correctional Facility near the Canadian border. [13] Since 2017, he has starred as Mackintyre Sullivan in the Fixer Upper Mysteries alongside Jewel Kilcher. self-described enormous fan of sci-fi and fantasy, From Scratch: A Memoir of Love, Sicily and Finding Home. In the end, he left six people dead and 19. Helping homeless kids. There are several actions that could trigger this block including submitting a certain word or phrase, a SQL command or malformed data. The indictment included two counts of murder for each slain victim, both for intentional murder and for depraved indifference to human life. [5][14] He presented himself as a California resident by providing a driver's license that he received two months earlier, which had an address of the Long Beach motel where he stayed. But fans will best recognize her from her recurring role as duplicitous angel Duma in Supernatural and as the villainousA.L.I.E./Dr. : The Rampage; Gunman in a Train Aisle Passes Out Death", "Death on the L.I.R.R. Twenty years on, The Associated Press conducted a series of interviews with those whose lives changed. Beverly is usually the driver of the story behind the story, selling Eureka's secrets to her employers, and she makes a great villain thanks to Debrah Farentino's ability to be warm and inviting on the surface and cold-blooded in reality. The action you just performed triggered the security solution. Cerra is a self-described enormous fan of sci-fi and fantasy, appreciating the escapism they offer, and her busy career has been built almost exclusively in that realm. Get updates on the coronavirus pandemic and other news as it happens with our free breaking news email alerts. [3] Two people were injured in the stampede of passengers. He is eligible for parole in 2309. Let's see what the cast of Eureka is up to today, shall we? Deranged gunman Colin Ferguson methodically walked through the train, firing at random and pausing to reload as screaming passengers tried to flee. Colin Ferguson's rugged good looks anddown-to-earth demeanor served him well in the role, and fans of other series have since learned why Eureka fans loved him so much. LIRR spokesman Aaron Donovan says the decision to retain the car was not made lightly. [20][21], On January 19, 1994, after three days of evidence presentation, a grand jury handed up a 93-count indictment against Ferguson, which carried the possibility of up to 175 years in prison. "[10] His landlord became increasingly concerned about Ferguson's obsession with racism and apparent growing mental instability, and asked him to move out by the end of the month. Ferguson's notes expressed anger towards the New York State Workers' Compensation Board, Asians, Governor Mario Cuomo,[5] and "so-called civil right leaders such as the Rev. A hearing will be held within 14 days to determine whether such placement is appropriate, Flateau said. The British actor has been living and working in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, for a few decades, and as such, he's been spotted all over a number of TV shows shot in the Pacific Northwest, including iZombie, Once Upon a Time, A Series of Unfortunate Events, and DC's Legends of Tomorrow. ; Lawyer Seeks Sanity Inquiry In L.I. The play was not renewed after the Ferguson murders. [5] The notes indicated Ferguson planned to wait to start the killings until he was beyond the New York City limit out of respect for outgoing Mayor David Dinkins and Police Commissioner Raymond W. in which she explained, "But I am still on the streets. [25] The attorneys compared it to the utilization of the battered woman defense, posttraumatic stress disorder, and the child abuse syndrome in other cases to negate criminal liability. He may not have much time to watch hockey, however:Matter is also the dad to two young kids, who keep him busy. Deranged gunman Colin Ferguson methodically walked through the train, firing at random and pausing to reload as screaming passengers tried to flee. Similar to Jack Carter, Deputy Sheriff Josephina "Jo"Lupo, played by Erica Cerra, was relatively "normal"compared to the rest of the town. People are still asking Lisa Combatti about her baby. Genre fans likely know her well:Cerra has had guest spots in shows like iZombie, Deadly Class, and as Trini's mom in the 2017 Power Rangers movie. During the next three minutes, he killed six people and injured another nineteen. Does Colin Ferguson Dead or Alive? You can email the site owner to let them know you were blocked. "I was one of the very fortunate individuals, because after the shooting I really had something to focus on, and that was her.". [1] He is known for playing Sheriff Jack Carter on the Syfy series Eureka, the Maytag Man, and Lewis on Then Came You. Now 55, he's housed at the Upstate. He has been assigned prisoner number 95A1838. Combatti was 7 1/2 months pregnant when she was shot in the hip, but she went on to give birth to a healthy daughter two months later. "[3] Ferguson walked east (forward) on the train, pulling the trigger steadily about every half second. [7] He enrolled at Nassau Community College in East Garden City, where he made the dean's list three times. Ferguson was sentenced Wednesday to a minimum of 200 years for killing six people and wounding 19 others in the Dec. 7, 1993, Long Island Rail Road shooting spree. Farentino has two daughters, and one of them clearly got bitten by the same journalistic bug as her mother: her daughter, Molly Adams, is a photographer and documentarian. On Dec. 7, 1993, when Lisa was seven-and-one-half-months pregnant with Kimberly, Ferguson shot Lisa in the hip, but she went on to deliver Kimberly normally on Feb. 3, 1994. But they said too many setbacks frustrated them. [4], Ferguson married Audrey Warren on May 13, 1986, a native of Southampton County, Virginia,[11] which qualified him for permanent U.S. residence. Slayings May Dismiss His Lawyer", "Lawyers in Rail Slayings File for Insanity Defense", "Suspect in L.I.R.R. On Dec. 7, 1993, a gunman opened fire on a train car filled with commuters leaving New York City. ", "The Story of O2", This page was last edited on 25 February 2023, at 17:38. As Ferguson was led away by guards, he insisted he had more to say to the judge. "[10] Ferguson started taking five showers a day and could be heard by neighbors repeatedly chanting at night "all the black people killing all the white people. As a true geek gamer, you can also find Grayston on his Twitch channel, where he has a large and loyal following. Kunstler and Kuby argued they would have no problem finding 12 unbiased jurors and claimed Ferguson had already been publicly attacked in the press by government and police officials. [1], Other passengers farther away in the train did not realize that a shooting had occurred until after the train stopped, as a crowd of panicked passengers fled from the third car into neighboring cars. [5], Colin Ferguson was born in Kingston, Jamaica, on January 14, 1958[7] to Von Herman and May Ferguson. The Jamaican immigrant, who acted as his own attorney, has maintained his innocence. Police officers remove a body from a Long Island Railroad car at the Merillon Ave. station in Garden City, N.Y. [32] On August 12, 1994, Kunstler and Kuby asked Judge Belfi to reconsider Ferguson's competence to stand trial, claiming he was growing more delusional, paranoid and obsessive by the day, and that he was too mentally unbalanced for them to mount any kind of defense. Larry may be annoying, but the actor who played him, Christopher Jacot, certainly isn't, with a successful career as a screen actor as well as a voice actor. [9], In April 1993,[10] Ferguson moved to California in search of new career opportunities. Before the holidays, Sara goes to Montana to help a man save his ranch. He fired methodically over several minutes, reloading at least once, before the train arrived at the next station, where terrified survivors ran screaming from the exits. [29], On December 10, 1994, Judge Belfi ruled Ferguson was competent to stand trial. After he was placed into handcuffs by guards, Ferguson shouted "they have made it too tight," collapsed to the floor, and had to be dragged from the courtroom. His friends speculated that he had trouble dealing with racism in the U.S.[8] and that he felt frustrated because he couldn't find work outside of menial jobs. "My mom always said we both survived because we were destined to do great things," she said. [36], Ferguson argued that the 93 counts he was charged with were related to the year 1993, and had it been 1925 he would have been charged with only 25 counts. She was bold, flawed, and fantastic, and Richardson-Whitfield carried those qualities into her projects after Eureka, appearing on shows like The Newsroom, Being Mary Jane, andNCIS as well as taking on the role of covert agent Maggie Baptiste in sci-fi crime drama Stitchers in 2015. "[3], Police found pieces of notebook paper in Ferguson's pockets with scribbled notes with the heading "reasons for this". The notice only preserves Fergusons right to appeal, Lemke said. [9], He starred in The Vampire Diaries and had a recurring role in TV series Haven in 2013 and 2014. Five inmates were charged with second-degree assault for their connection in the attack. Becca Franco in The 100. In one of the calls, he made reference to a massacre which occurred in California. By using our Services, you agree to our use of cookies. [56] The day after the shooting, Clinton announced he had asked Attorney General Janet Reno to review a proposal by New York City Mayor-elect Rudy Giuliani that would set up a national uniform licensing system for gun buyers. Thanks so much for the kind words everyone", "Colin Ferguson on solving "Fixer Upper Mysteries" with co-star Jewel", "Celeb Blogger Profile: Colin Ferguson -NHL.com", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Colin_Ferguson&oldid=1141559290, Episodes: "Your Face or Mine? Fans of Eureka will also be happy to learn Matter is still friends with his old costars Neil Grayston and Ferguson though, as an Edmonton Oilers fan, he and Ferguson are rivals once hockey season starts. It also included 19 counts of attempted murder, 34 counts of assault, criminal possession of a weapon, intent to use the weapon, violation of civil rights of each of the 25 victims and "intent to harass, annoy, threaten and alarm" the victims "because of their race, color or national origin. Both units continued to operate in regular service with these new numbers. Donald Belfi, a retired. "I never thought there would be closure. [5] In 2003, he starred in the short-lived TV show Coupling. McCarthy, 69, who announced this year she was battling lung cancer, was not giving interviews ahead of the anniversary, a spokeswoman said. [11], Ferguson was the subject of a Saturday Night Live comedy sketch in which he, portrayed by Tim Meadows, declared "I did not shoot them, they shot me" and asked witnesses questions about shooting him while they were on the stand, then ducking when they pointed to him as the killer. Kelly. Birthday: January 14, 1958 How Old - Age: 65 Recently Passed Away Celebrities and Famous People. LIRR police chief Joseph Flynn said, "This was the work of a deranged, maniacal person who for a variety of reasons decided to explode. So many ads out there are confusing, and you watch all the way to the end, and you still don't know what they're about! The train's cars were less than 10 years old when the shooting occurred. "[18] Later, Ron Kuby argued Ferguson had been a frequent target of harassment at the Nassau County jail, and requested that the United States Department of Justice intervene to ensure Ferguson's safety. [15] During his first major speech since his election as mayor, Giuliani cited the Ferguson murders while he repeated his previous calls for the death penalty and a uniform gun licensing law. Ferguson was sentenced Wednesday to a minimum of 200 years for killing six people and wounding 19 others in the Dec. 7, 1993, Long Island Rail Road shooting spree. A train car that became a massacre scene when a gunman killed six people and wounded 19 more is still in service 25 years after the deadly rampage. Train", "Woman in '92 Subway Dispute With L.I.R.R. Basically, he's done it all. Otherwise, she remains largely elusive on social media, only occasionally posting on her Instagram account. "Any other time, I would not like something like that happening in my courtroom," Belfi said. "Then we have airports, then we have colleges, then we have the movie house, it just goes on and on. "And we actually couldn't keep them off the stand after that. "[3] He also repeatedly pleaded with those holding him: "Don't shoot me. By not recognizing when to object to testimony and closing arguments, he lost his right to appeal on those grounds. [13] Most of the regular commuters who used the 5:33 Hicksville local returned to the train the day after the shootings. Henry's engineering and mechanical genius were often crucial to figuring out how to stop whatever disaster was threatening the town, and, as the one conscientious objector to Global Dynamics' experiments, he often was the moral center of the show. She's passionate about cooking and sustainability, something learned from her late husband, Saro, an Italian chef. In 2007, he starred as Dan Casey in the Lifetime Christmas film Christmas in Paradise alongside Charlotte Ross. Suspect Says All the Signs Were There", "Death on the L.I.R.R. Retired Nassau County Judge Donald Belfi will always be remembered for his decision to allow Ferguson to represent himself in his murder trial. (Ed Bailey/AP). He received 315 years and eight months to life, meaning his current earliest possible parole date is August 6, 2309. [7] In 2010, Ferguson starred as Nathan Bickerman in the syfy original film Lake Placid 3 co-starring Kirsty Mitchell. Morton even won an Audie Award in 2020 for his audiobook narration of Ta-Nehisi Coates' debut novel, The Water Dancer. Six officers took Ferguson from the Nassau County jail in a three-car caravan that pulled away at 6:30 a.m. Upon hearing the sentence, a courtroom full of train survivors applauded. President George W. Bush in 2008 signed a bill she sponsored establishing a national database for criminal background checks on gun purchases, but other efforts at obtaining assault weapons bans, and limits on the sizes of ammunition clips, have not gained traction. [9], In February 1992, Ferguson was arrested and charged with harassing a woman on a subway. . Months later, he made threatening calls to members of the firm, claiming that they were discriminating against him. "[6] He sent letters to the New York City Police Commissioner and other officials complaining about his arrest, describing it as "viscous [sic] and racist,"[7] and claiming that he was brutalized by the officers who arrested him. But Jacot has found particular success in voice acting, doing everything from animated series to video games. Co-star Colin Ferguson is definitely a fan of this multi-talent's work on the series, . "Coming out of such a horrible situation, there is no closure; you never get over it," he said. The calls prompted the lawyers to start locking their inner office doors out of fear. [27], On March 23, 1994, while returning to his cell from the medical unit, Ferguson was attacked in jail by a group of inmates. [26], Shortly after his incarceration began, Ferguson complained about his treatment, claiming correction officers attacked him with milk crates and a fire extinguisher, while depriving him of necessities like soap and antiperspirant spray. ; Police Look for the Spark That Led to the Shootings", "Mineola Woman Is 6th to Die in Rail Shootings", "Death on the L.I.R.R. Colin Ferguson (born July 22, 1972) is a Canadian-American actor, director and producer. She's a writer, director and producer, playing the role of all three on her short filmMarmalade. One month before the LIRR shooting, Winchester Ammunition announced they were voluntarily withdrawing the Black Talon cartridges from the market. "[3] Ferguson said, "I'm going to get you," over and over as he walked down the aisle. Before a ruling was even made on the request, Moore held a press conference announcing he would seek a change of venue to Brooklyn, claiming it was impossible for Ferguson to receive a fair trial in a Nassau court due to a "severe underrepresentation of African-Americans on the Nassau County jury panel. [4] McCarthy's suit failed, partly because New York State law placed no responsibility on manufacturers for the criminal misuse of their products. Gorycki said she has been approached on several occasions to consider running for public office, like her friend the congresswoman, but has opted against it. At the time, lawyers and mental health experts said such a defense would be difficult because Ferguson appeared to have carefully planned the attacks, and because he said, "oh God, what did I do" after he was stopped. She asked a law clerk to sit in on the meeting because she did not want to be alone with Ferguson,[7] which she had never done before. NEWS DAILY/Al Raia. [5], Ferguson showed no remorse during hours of questioning from the Nassau County District Attorney's Office. Dave confronts Croatoan in his mind. The brawl began when Ferguson asked Rifkin to be quiet while Ferguson was using the telephone. LIRR officials responded by noting that the rate of crime against passengers had dropped over the past few years before the shooting. He is known for playing Sheriff Jack Carter on Syfy's Eureka, Lewis on Then Came You, and the role of the latest Maytag Repairman. He has been assigned prisoner number 95A1838. The woman tried to sit in a vacant seat alongside Ferguson and asked him to move over, prompting him to scream at her and press his leg and elbow against her until police officers pinned him to the ground. He said the prison slaying of serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer was "set up as a prelude against me. Sound familiar yet? Falanga called for his client to receive a psychiatric evaluation. Ferguson defended himself in court, cross-examining the very people he terrorized. Morton's gravitas and screen presence have served him well since Eureka, as he's gone on to star in a number of shows such as Proof, Scandal (for which he won an Emmy for Outstanding Guest Actor in a Drama Series), and God Friended Me. Moore offered to represent Ferguson pro bono. "[40], His cross-examination questions mostly started with "is it your testimony" and would simply force the witness to repeat testimony already given. He also told Judge Belfi of an alleged conspiracy by the Jewish Defense League to kill him in prison if he was convicted. Joel Rifkin "Joel the Ripper" - ALIVE - Convicted of murdering 9 prostitutes between 1989-93 in New York City & Long Island, Rifkin was arrested on 28th June 1993 following a high-speed pursuit when officers spotted him driving without licence plates. [9] His Flatbush landlord said that he appeared even more unstable upon his return, speaking in the third person about "some apocryphal-type doom scenario" which included black people rising up and striking down "their pompous rulers and oppressors. As a fun character quirk, Larry was shown eating in almost every single scene he was in, no matter what was happening at the time. That short was the test run for her first feature film, God Save the Queen, which Danger also wrote, directed and produced. It was broadcast live by local media and Court TV, but was overshadowed by the O. J. Simpson murder case, going on simultaneously on the West Coast. Ferguson purchased a Ruger P89 919mm pistol at a Turner's Outdoorsman in Long Beach for $400 after waiting the fifteen-day period required under California's gun laws. ``He was very nervous. Instead, she's stepped behind the camera, cutting her teeth as producer on her first few projects in 2018. Since Eureka, Neil Grayston has had guest and recurring roles in a number of television series like The True Heroines, Spooked, Daredevil, and The Magicians. [6] He was the lead in Eureka, a Syfy original series broadcast between 2006 and 2012, for which he was also a producer in its later seasons. Ferguson then punched Rifkin in the mouth. [13] Although he was free to reapply after the suspension, he chose not to. Killings Ruled Competent for Trial", "Jury Finds Ferguson Guilty Of Slayings on the L.I.R.R. Massacre", "L.I.R.R. In interviews with the media, a number of passengers cited the need to face their fears and the psychological trauma created by the incident, rather than avoid riding their regular train. Please include what you were doing when this page came up and the Cloudflare Ray ID found at the bottom of this page. "He showed sufficient intelligence to me.". He slipped and fell on August 18, 1989, while standing on a stool to reach invoices from a filing cabinet, injuring his head, neck, and back,[10] and the injury led to his termination. The cartridges carry hollow-tipped bullets that expand upon impact, increasing the severity of wounds. Adding to Jack Carter's exasperation is his rebellious teenage daughter, Zoe, played by Jordan Hinson, thanks to the fact that Zoe was a genius herself but also possessed her dad's street smarts, making her a disciplined single parent's worst nightmare. While he was pinned, Ferguson said, "Oh God, what did I do? I deserve whatever I get. Credit: L.I. "Remember now, they've had shootings in schools; this is horrible. He never spoke during the arraignment and did not enter a plea. Facebook gives people the power. . Donovan says the cars bear no evidence of the bloodbath. Instead, she's turned to journalism, appearing as a CBS special correspondent covering the USAF Guardian Angel units, going with the Special Forces units on rescue missions in Afghanistan. [18], For other people named Colin Ferguson, see, Last edited on 25 February 2023, at 17:38, Confessions of a Sociopathic Social Climber, "Maytag Ads Ditch That Old, Bored Repairman for a Younger Model", "Season 3 Premier, Hallmark Cedar Cove, Love Triangle for Andie MacDowell with Colin Ferguson", "Colin Ferguson as Jack on Every Christmas Has A Story | Hallmark Channel", "Colin Ferguson on Framed for Murder: A Fixer Upper Mystery | Hallmark Movies and Mysteries", "Cast | Concrete Evidence: A Fixer Upper Mystery | Hallmark Movies and Mysteries", "Mother and son are happy, healthy and napping. What did I do? Kimberly is now in her second year at Bucknell University. The trial would still have been choreographed by a madman. Tags: Actor Born in 1972 Canadian [11] The Long Island Rail Road and Metro-North Commuter Railroad placed more officers on trains and increased the visibility of police in response to the shootings. . "[7] They also included the names and telephone numbers of the Lt. In the end, he left six people dead and 19 injured. The officer spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity. Though other massacres have far superseded it in terms of casualties, there are aspects of the railcar shooting that, even two decades later, make it stand out in the sad pantheon of rampages that have horrified the nation. [44], After his sentencing, Ferguson was incarcerated for a time at the Attica Correctional Facility in upstate New York. [7] He was unemployed[9] and lived around many other West Indian immigrants. But with Maytag, I always understand them from the beginning. ``I have a lighter heart today, knowing that Ferguson is no longer around, said Carolyn McCarthy, whose husband, Dennis, 52, was killed and son, Kevin, 27, was partially paralyzed by the gunman. The couple, from Hawthorne, N.J., decided to shift their focus, drawing on their daughter's own tragic past. 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