A.async = !0; John Shelby Spong God, Thinking, People 57 Copy quote I don't see Jesus as rescuing the fallen; I see Jesus as expanding the potential of life. } I think that anything that begins to give people a sense of their own worth and dignity is God. I'm not in the comfort-giving business. Inequality for gay and lesbian people is no longer a debatable issue in either church or state. The biblical texts that we Christians have used for centuries to justify our hostility toward the Jews need to be banished forever from the sacred writings of the Christian church. Jerry Falwell says, on Pat Robertson's program, that the reason we got attacked on 9/11 is that we were accommodating the ACLU and abortion and homosexuals and feminists in America, so God smacked us down. } catch (err) { The Rt. I honor my tradition, I walk through my tradition, but I don't think my tradition defines God, I think it only points me to God. The Bible tells me that every life is holy; the Bible tells me that every life is loved; the Bible tells me that every life is called to be all that it can be. By popular demand, here are his conservations with Tapestry from 2007 and 2009. If I were a child of Tibet or of Arabia, I suspect the path Id walk would be the Buddhist path or the Muslim path. Oh, my God, teach him rather to think like other people! Let me try to do just that. We've murdered them; we've burned them at the stake; we've run them out of town for something over which they have no control. The Bible was written between 3,000 and 2,000 years ago, and it's filled with the knowledge that people had in that period of time, some of which you and I rejected long ago. Weve murdered them; weve burned them at the stake; weve run them out of town for something over which they have no control. Prayer is entering into the pain or joy of another person. It meant go beyond the boundaries that you directed in your biologically driven search for survival.. 23:17). Weve got to deal with the fact that the church has been violently prejudiced against gay people. var source = getCookieWithoutJQuery("source"); He believed that theism had lost credibility as a valid conception of God's nature. My experience is my ability to perceive God, but the nature of God is beyond my ability to describe., The same thing is true of Christianitys fundamental doctrine, known as the Incarnation., That doctrine makes Jesus not unlike the comic strip character Clark Kent who turned out to be Superman in the skies, he said. It was for me a holy moment for I was certain that I was kneeling on holy ground.I will not make any further attempt to convert the Buddhist, the Jew, the Hindu or the Moslem. The Christ path is the path I've walked all my life, so it's normal and natural. I don't see Jesus as rescuing the fallen; I see Jesus as expanding the potential of life. "Events.SushiEndpoint": "https://unagi.amazon.com/1/events/com.amazon.csm.csa.prod", John Shelby Spong has been called a heretic and worse. John Shelby Spong I Am 21st Century Child Am "I believe that God is very real. Every day we present the best quotes! He received his Master of Divinity degree from the Virginia Theological Seminary in 1955. var stylesheet = document.createElement("link"); Perhaps the most telling witness against the claim of accurate history for the Bible comes when we read the earliest narrative of the crucifixion found in Mark's gospel and discover that it is not based on eyewitness testimony at all. I think that anything that begins to give people a sense of their own worth and dignity is God. Have these people simply not read the text? "Christ must be served in every person," he said. You can't go to church without praying ten or fifteen times for God to have mercy on you. [11] Towards these ends, he called for a new Reformation, in which many of Christianity's basic doctrines should be reformulated.[1]. John Shelby Spong Buddhist, Prayer, Believe Praying and living deeply, richly and fully have become for me almost indistinguishab le. Spong said this means human division must disappear. By contrast, Phillip Aspinall, the Primate of Australia, invited Spong in 2007 to deliver two sermons at St John's Cathedral, Brisbane. I think the first self-conscious person must have shaken in his boots. It caused his followers to regard his teaching as worthy of being preserved. All religion seems to need to prove that it's the only truth. When the dust settles and the pages of history are written, it will not be the angry defenders of intolerance who have made the difference. 5:44) and never to call others by demeaning or hurtful names (Matt. Tweets by @chqdaily } George Stroumboulopoulos. There is no way that the Fourth Gospel was written by John Zebedee or by any of the disciples of Jesus. He stated that he was a Christian because he believes that Jesus Christ fully expressed the presence of a God of compassion and selfless love and that this is the meaning of the early Christian proclamation, "Jesus is Lord" (Spong, 1994 and Spong, 1991). It calls us beyond our limits into the fullness of life - into a capacity to love people we are not taught to love - and into an ability to be who we are. } [21], Mark Tooley, a Methodist who is president of the Institute on Religion and Democracy, a think tank noted for its critique of liberal religious groups, criticized Spong in 2010 as "brandishing the stale theologies and ideologies of a half-century ago". //=0){return}if("ue_https" in e){f=e.ue_https}else{f=e.location&&e.location.protocol=="https:"?1:0}i=f? John Shelby Spong (2009). Was Judas Iscariot a figure of history? The author made sure that it was understood as a universal happening, Spong said. It opens up all sorts of things that I've never thought about. And I dont mind saying that I dont invalidate any of those paths. He looks at the vastness of the universe and it looks hostile. A.src = t; "[23], Albert Mohler, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, described Spong's teaching as constituting the historic definition of heresy, having "denied virtually every major Christian doctrine. The question must also be raised as to whether we have the actual words of Jesus in any Gospel. It's like that crazy man down in Alabama who wanted to put the Ten Commandments in his courtroom. A liberal Christian theologian, religion commentator, and author, he called for a fundamental rethinking of Christian belief away from theism and traditional doctrines. That's sort of fourth-century Christianity that got turned into doctrines and dogmas that we've never been able to escape. And all I can tell you is if we accepted every invitation we had, I'd be away every day of my life. Jesus exhorted people to love their enemies and to pray for their persecutors (Matt. "Why We Must Reclaim The Bible From Fundamentalists". Are they people who no one prayed for? With the passing of retired Episcopal Bishop John Shelby Spong in September 2021, the movement known as Progressive Christianity has lost one of its most revered writers. I was baptized as an infant. Plenty of people out there think of me as the Antichrist or the devil incarnate because I do not affirm the literal patterns of the Bible. We must move beyond the now irrelevant dualistic patterns and discover the holy at the heart of the human. . "One day Jesus was praying, and when he had finished, one of the disciples asked, "Rabbi, teach us to pray, just as John taught his disciples." Jesus said to them, "When you pray, say, 'Abba God, hallowed be your Name! 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