Diarrhea. When CC is 0.3 ppm or higher, it is thought to be too high, and shocking the pool is recommended. By Chrissymok in forum Dealing with Stains & Metals, . When free chlorine is over 5.0 ppm, swimmers may experience itchy skin, irritated eyes, and/or dry hair. Swimming pool information, pool care, pool water discussion forums & swimming pool problem help, Postby chem geek Sun 29 May, 2011 23:22, Postby chem geek Mon 30 May, 2011 08:31, Postby chem geek Mon 30 May, 2011 23:56, Postby Help in NJ Tue 26 Jul, 2011 12:17, Postby chem geek Wed 11 Nov, 2015 00:47, Postby Denniswiseman Thu 10 Dec, 2015 08:54, Postby Denniswiseman Sun 13 Dec, 2015 07:56, Postby Denniswiseman Mon 14 Dec, 2015 04:50, Return to Pool Chemical Problems & Swimming Pool Chemicals, Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests. Or the store may be wrong? I have a three-week old 9,000 to 10,000 gallon salt water pool. Some people notice itchy eyes or skin with as little as 5 ppm. "description": "Oops! Citric, Ascorbic, and Oxalic acids (which are the three most common powder stain removers) are effective against iron stains, cobalt spotting in fiberglass pools, and manganese stain but not very effetive on copper stains (it depends on the oxidation state of the copper stain--no effect on reddish or black ones, moderate effect on blue/green ones. Does chlorine neutralizer reduce just combined chlorine or does it reduce free chlorine as well? Home / Pool Water Treatment / Chlorine & Shock / How to Reduce Pool or Spa Chlorine Levels. Im at the store and they have chlorine stabilizer, pH up, pH down, alkalinity increased, calcium hardness increaser, and baking soda. Youll often see us mention that its important to keep your chlorine levels between 2 and 4 ppm (parts per million) with the ideal level being 3 ppm. Iron, when oxidized, turns reddish-brown, and chlorine is consumed (reduced) in the process. By Smforte in forum Dealing with Stains & Metals, . "width": "611",
To get started, We took water to be test and were told Free/Total chlorine is 10, Alkalinity is 50 and Cyanuric Acid is 150. (But I didnt use any stabilizer) wondering why my chlorine is being read as stabilizer by the test strips? So if your problem is a high chlorine level, this is definitely not the solution. On the other hand, swimming pools with efficient filtration and circulation systems, or pools with secondary sanitizers like minerals, ozonators, or UV systems, may require 50% less chlorine to maintain clean and clear water. Too much cyanuric acid can overwhelm the chlorine in your pool and stop it from working at all. Iron is found in almost all natural water sources. Such products do exist on the market already. Whether in tablet, granule or liquid form, it works to kill bacteria and other contaminants, as well as algae, to keep pool water safe for swimming. During pregnancy, 120 mg a day are recommended. It is a white to light yellow crystalline powder with pleasant, sharp acidic taste. Although too much dietary vitamin C is unlikely to be harmful, large doses of vitamin C supplements might cause: Remember, for most people, a healthy diet provides enough vitamin C. There is a problem with The purpose of shocking a pool is to raise the chlorine to a super high level to destroy any contaminants you havent been able to kill. Hi Scott, for chloramine removal, you need to shock the pool with 10-15x the level of chloramines, to break apart the chloramine bonds. "name": "Davy Merino",
Most people can get enough vitamin C for the day in their food. The major role of ascorbic acid is as an electron donor and intracellular antioxidant protecting critical intracellular molecules and enzymes systems against reactive oxygen species. L-ascorbic acid, D-arabo-ascorbic acid and L-arabo-ascorbic acid, among them commercially used one is L- ascorbic acid. Taking too much vitamin C could lead to kidney stones. 10 oz can lower chlorine levels by 3 ppm in 10,000 gallons of water. Remember that pH levels will drop after an effective hydrogen peroxide treatment. Hi Crystal, are you using Di-Chlor granules? . I have a small pool 8, round 2 deep. I pour 2 packs into my pool and kept running filter pump 7-10 hours a day last few days. As a general rule, you should proceed with caution when taking any kind of supplement, especially if you also take medication. I just started to notice some of the staining re-appearing on the liner. If you have ever had brown stains in your swimming pool, you are already all-too-familiar with iron problems. Any ideas what this reaction is? If you are a Mayo Clinic patient, this could You're probably best off using vinegar or muriatic acid as ascorbic acid can get real costly. The size of the tablet is too much for a small tub. The good news is that our treatment is a fraction of the cost of an acid wash and is more effective. Adding too much pool shock or putting too many chlorine tablets to the feeder can both result in very high levels of chlorine. Will adding a bag e.g 20kg into the pool fix the ppm to the correct level? You might notice diarrhea or stomach upset. Hi Kara, hydrogen peroxide is one way to remove chlorine, but the 3% drug store variety is not very strong and may do nothing. Vitamin C interacts with warfarin, a blood-thinning medication according to the Linus Pauling Institute. Thanks again! diarrhea. My pool is not real fancy or big its only a 14 foot 3300 gallon above ground and I just bought and put it up a few weeks back..I have not added any chlorine other then my tablet floater. What should I use? Hi Davy. The woman I spoke to didnt really sound too confident about what she was telling me. Approximately 7600 gallons. Many thanks! If you find yourself having to add more stabilizer to the pool, slightly reduce the amount of chlorine used after application. "keywords": "reduce chlorine",
I went to pool supply store and they recommended me to have pool shock. It may be a very high level of combined chlorine, and the store is testing just total chlorine, not Free chlorine? Vitamin C is also vital to your body's healing process. For spas and smaller bodies of water, use 1 oz. Most people can get enough vitamin C for the day in their food. Ferric iron, for example, is not as easy to sequester as ferrous iron. "address": "",
For larger stains, add half a pound of ascorbic acid per 10,000 gallons of your pool water by sprinkling it evenly over the surface of the water. I used Leslie Stain Remover (two containers to be exact) in my 30,000+ gallon pool. This product will also quickly burn off a lot of that extra chlorine. I wish the info about it on your website was clearer. Vitamin C (ascorbic acid). Metals are introduced to our pools through the tap water, with few exceptions like copper algaecide or corroded metal equipment in the pump room. This reacts with any contaminants and kills them off. Remove chlorine naturally with sunlight, aeration, and agitation of the water. UV rays will burn up some of that chlorine naturally. It also helps your body absorb iron. However, if you take very large doses of ascorbic acid, usually from vitamin C supplements, you put yourself at risk of developing harmful side effects. You may need to avoid some vitamins and minerals if you have kidney disease. How do I bring it down? It can irritate your skin and eyes and sometimes cause chlorine poisoning. Raising CYA will reduce your daily FC loss. But if you drain some of your pool water, you can check it as soon as it's refilled. This is why at the beginning of the breakpoint chlorination curve (up to point A on the chart below), there is no noticeable increase of chlorine residuals until these chlorine reducing compounds like iron are conquered. One is Aqua Silks Oxidizer. I called Intheswim and I was told it just reduces the combined chlorine but your comments make it sounds like both. Fill the can with 1 gallon of water and then add 1 gallon of citric acid, always in that order. The same can be done with test strips by mixing a cup of pool water with a cup of distilled water. If that works, then the broader treatment should work and if it doesn't the first time then yes you can try it again, possibly dosing higher. An ascorbic acid-induced headache can last for 1-2 days and does not easily respond to over-the-counter pain medication. cloudy water after ascorbic acid treatment. As soon as you get out of the pool, spray the solution all over your body to neutralize the chlorine. And all I had to use was one 32 oz bottle. Chemically, the vitamin occurs in 3 isomeric forms viz. It can cause things like damaged airways, lungs, and skin. Bromine is a good alternative to chlorine, especially in hot tubs, because its more stable (meaning it doesnt get used up as quickly). Im not sure what to do!! So the key to preventing iron staining is to prevent iron from being oxidized. Muriatic (liquid) acid or Dry acid (powder), Cyanuric acid, or Ascorbic acid. Chlorine smell is present but pool has been under cover for three days. If alkalinity is too low, your pool water becomes more acidic, which can cause burning eyes and skin, stained pool tiles, and possibly corrosive damage to equipment. Especially if you have not shocked, just used tablets. It can also happen if you have a problem with your liquid chlorine pump or leave it running too long. The chlorinator was flashing low salt. But that depends on exactly how high they are. Vitamin C also plays a role as a cofactor in many biochemical . . To provide you with the most relevant and helpful information, and understand which Ascorbic acid is a potent reducing and antioxidant agent that functions in fighting bacterial infections, in detoxifying reactions, and in the formation of collagen in fibrous tissue, teeth, bones, connective tissue, skin, and capillaries. The options to solve this problem are either a strategy of removal, or chemically isolating the metals to prevent further oxidation. Ascorbic acid, also called vitamin C, helps maintain your health. A Brush - To brush off scum before adding ascorbic acid. Maybe someone else has been adding chlorine? I am in need of help. By pooltech in forum Dealing with Stains & Metals, . [ Ref] Nausea, diarrhea, and abdominal cramps appears to be associated with doses exceeding 2 g per day, although there have been some reports with as little as 1 g per day. Muriatic (hydrochloric acid) or Dry Acid (sodium bisulfate) is used for lowering pH and alkalinity Cyanuric acid liquid or granule is your chlor. Less than that and you're probably not getting the benefits of the ingredient, and more than 20% is, well, a waste. Or just add more AA? Don, are you sure your test kit or strip is correct? A better option is a product made just for pools with the appropriate percentage of H2O2 for this use. Hi there! I still have no idea why the store recommended that much chlorine. Remember that one gram of ascorbic acid is capable of neutralizing one milligram of chlorine per liter for 100-liter of water. to consume too much through their . But seeing how 5lbs of chlorine neutralizer was only 13.99, it was probably the right choice since ascorbic acid was 19$ for 2.2lbs. Today I put a test strip into my pool and all level are in the range except for free chlorine which is at around 10. So if measuring in terms of Vitamin C tablets, so, how many tablets for 5 lb. Water is clear and all other levels seem to be in range other than stabilizer being low. Answer: Yes, it's possible to take too much vitamin C. Since vitamin C is water-soluble, as are B vitamins (i.e. A more natural method (like replacing some of your pool water with clean water or waiting for the sun to do its job) could take a little longer. Adding too much chlorine with a splash of cyanuric acid is a recipe for an over-chlorinated pool. Is there anything to do. Citric acid has a pH of around 4.5, while ascorbic acid tends to fall around 2.5, making it a much stronger acid. This should help to give you a fresh start, but if the levels are still a little too high, you can try another method or leave it alone for 24 hours and test it again. If the levels are too high, almost everyone will notice the strong bleachy smell. If you have a D.E. Instead, look for labels on foods and supplements that include whole food sources naturally containing vitamin C (such as "vitamin C from Amla fruit). . Hello, we recently purchased a home with a pool and want to self maintain. The upper limit for all adults is 2,000 mg a day. Our local water dept uses Chloramine to sanitize our water so adding water isnt necessarily going lower the total chlorine is it? Vitamin C is the same thing as ascorbic acid, making it the most effective on iron and rust stains. Taking too much ascorbic acid may have more serious effects. And when super-chlorinating or shocking the pool to remove algae, bacteria, and chloramines from the water, its very easy to overshoot the mark and over-chlorinate the pool. Its important to note, however, that bromine is still chlorine-based. HI deejay, great question, thank you! "@type": "Person",
The stuff we sell as part of our Aqua Silk sanitizer system is much stronger or more concentrated. The cost may not be noticeably higher because the pool might be constantly introducing new water with iron in it. If using chemical methods to reduce chlorine levels, this one is probably the cheapest and most reliable method. I have a 2900 gallon swim spa and we just replace the water. Sodium thiosulfate is probably the quickest fix, with other chlorine reducers right behind it. We have a shocking topic for discussion today, How to Shock a Spa or Hot, Saltwater pools use regular table salt to create chlorine, by passing the slightly salty water over two electrically charged plates, called the, The topic of this post might be shocking to some peoplethat's because we're talking about pool shock! We are here to help you with information and advice on pool maintenance, pool repairs and swimming pool building. 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